Having the same birthday - two charts

It is very interesting to look at an astrological chart of two people born on the same day.

Usually, in this case, the astrologer offers themes from well-known people, to multiple reasons. Often their story is public, their date of birth also, sometimes even the time of birth. All confidentiality rules are respected.

However, there is an obstacle for me, as an astrologer. These celebrities do not correspond the people who come to see me. These latter are everyday people with an impact on the society that only concerns their own environment.

Of course, the map is not the territory, everyone lives in a city in their own way, yet the plan of the city does not change. Just like the Ascendant - the Sun and the Moon direct us towards a trend.

It is the exchange with the customer and their expression of life which will find the realization of this trend.

Multiple choices are possible, these choices are made by everyone.

The two themes I propose are ordinary people like you and me. These are two women, in their thirties, at the start of their career.

Comparing their chart, where only the time and place of birth changes, highlights

their professional orientation and thereby the impact of the Ascendant in a person's vocation. It is in that this comparison is interesting.

The theme of A

She is Libra Ascendant Virgo

And conjunct his Ascendant there is Jupiter, although he is in Libra, but it is a very close to the Ascendant. What can Jupiter tell us in this position in conjunction with the Ascendant and in house 1?

The position of the Ascendant in a chart is how one presents oneself to the outside world, but

not only. It also indicates its manifestation, conscious and assumed or unconscious, not assumed... It often presents through the position as a sign, the field of expression.

The Ascendant in Virgo and I would like to quote Liz Greene who defines Virgo as “a sign that will to the end of things, because this earth sign is concrete and in matter, in the perception of things, it is neither in the emotional nor in the intellect” unlike Libra which is accentuated in her chart because his Sun is in Libra. Libra is a perfectionist which is a

idea and design. I can only agree with Liz Greene because perfectionism is “cerebral”.

The theme of B

She is Libra and Cancer Ascendant

And conjunct her Ascendant is Mars. What can Mars tell us in this conjunction position at the Ascendant and in house 1?

I remind you that here too we have a Sun in Libra, a desire to be perfect. A vocation of harmonious relationship.

But the field of expression differs profoundly. A Mars on the Ascendant often manifests itself as excessive and active expression, a desire to be able to handle things on their own. If harmony is not present.

A little about the background of the two people:

They both started their new jobs in 2022, one in January and the other in February.

They both had their termination interviews a week apart.

One was fired for what we call "serious misconduct", therefore without any money.

And the second was fired with three months’ notice before leaving the company completely.

Audience: Can we say that there were specific aspects that made it possible to see the hiring

and dismissal?

Yes indeed, that’s a good question. During the dismissal period Jupiter and Chiron intervene in aspect with personal planets; notably Sun, Mars and for one of the two, a nice Yod. But in I will come back to it. Let’s go back a little to the context of their situation.

Theme of subject A was hired as a chef cook, and she was fired because there was jealousy.

This is the real reason she was fired.

Theme of subject B was hired as a logistics manager in the company. She was responsible for sales, customer follow-up and the delivery chain. She was fired for “disturbing” services. In the disturbance what was highlighted is that other employees had, according to

the employer, left the company because of her.

We see that fundamentally in both cases there was a disagreement linked to work colleagues.

This is interesting if we consider that both subjects are Libras with this innate sense of seek the support of others, harmony in their environment.

This raises two questions:

1.     Why did you choose a “hostile” environment?

2.     How a subject born under the sign of Libra reacts under duress.

What does this make you think of?

Audience: even if a subject of the sign of Libra seeks harmony, it seems to me that one should not forget that the sign opposite Libra is Aries and Aries comes into action.

Yes, that’s right and then, Venus is not always complacent and conformist, Athens is one of the very warlike female mythical figures, ready for combat. We tend to forget that there is therefore, a combative dimension in Libra. I have already pointed out that Libra tends towards perfection. If this perfection is not achieved, the combative Libra archetype is expressed. May, since it is an air sign, it expresses itself very “cerebral”, cold, and sharp.

Now let's look at chart B, you find a Mars on the Ascendant. Do you think that in his case, she “threw a cold”?

Audience: Yes. To point out dysfunctions in the organization, it’s strong possible, I am Libra and I have often been criticized for it. But here her Mars is in Cancer. Doesn’t this position in Cancer soften the words?

I don't think so, but it's possible that she herself doesn't feel her words are incisive and disturbing. This surely caused the problem. How do you analyze this Mars in Cancer on the Ascendant opposed to Neptune/Uranus?

Audience: She has obviously chosen a restrictive environment.

Indeed, she is still young, this Neptune/Uranus must certainly manifest itself outside of her.

Either she has chosen an environment tinged with vagueness and disruptive for her. This manifested itself clearly in its interactions with its environment. The bosses were evasive in the instructions and their requests. The organization was disruptive beyond what the person realized, they had to work in a toxic environment which generated a lung infection and a sick leave. Which brings me back to her Chiron in house 2.

But let's return to his Mars. I have already seen in other women working in a sales position a Mars in Cancer and on the Ascendant. Interesting, isn’t it? Generally, at this location is characterized by a difficulty in expressing oneself in Cancer. But his Mars is in HIS house in 1st house.

How will this Mars express himself here?

Audience: Cancer is a cardinal, active sign. It is a Mars that wants to act but it will act on the

feeling of others. 

This is part of the answer. This energy of Mars will connect to its ruler, Moon in House 11

and in Taurus. Its expression will be oriented towards the concrete, the factual, the material by asking social cohesion and participation of everyone. Have you noticed that the planets in Scorpio are in an intercepted house? This weakens their expression, so these planets are less active.

But now let's return to our theme A we find a Virgo Ascendant but with a Jupiter conjunct the Ascendant in Libra. His position is strengthened because he is in the same sign as the Sun.

Especially since Jupiter is at zero degrees of Libra, another accentuation of his position.

How will this Jupiter express itself?

Audience: Jupiter wants to transmit and communicate the meaning that the person finds in what they do. In principle Jupiter is rather generous and positive.

Yes, but when he feels like he is in a hostile environment, he can become intrusive and

dogmatic, he will position himself as enterprising. In the present case, its broad conjunction with the Sun encourages it to carry Solar values, responsibility, perfectionism, ethics…

Why then cooking?

Audience: Mars is in Cancer but in the 10th house.

Yes, however, it is not his Mars who leads the dance, but his Moon in Taurus and in house 8 then his Venus conjunct Pluto and Mercury in house 2…. The transformation of the matter that the Moon carries into self is the key image here. As well as the 3 planets in house 2, in Scorpio in which we find this same tone of transformation. It seems that feeding others and transforming that food leads us to consider that cooking is a very good vocation. But the Chef is more than just one transformative: he positions himself as an entrepreneur with his Jupiter and the Sun in Libra.